From: Victoria de Rijke Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:06:47 +0100 To: geoffcox Subject: Ordure Geoff, You might want to pass on to Stuart Brisley (or that Gypsy friend of his) something I read in Geoffrey Hughes's new book The History of English Words, relating to what he calls the two 'vocabularies of our bodies' (outer and inner). He traces an historical journey for the word 'shit' from: Anglo-Saxon 'shit' or 'turd', to Middle English *'ordure', Renaissance *'excrement', through Augustan/Victorian 'crap' to Modern *'defecation'. It struck me that the two languages (inner & outer) were somehow differentiated via the Romance origin of the word (marked with an *) though Hughes does not say this. I'm not sure if this comes up in The History of Shit, does it? Victoria.